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The disciplinary process from a union rep's side: what happens at the meeting, what to bring, what to say and the cases that end careers versus a warning

⚖️ Contracts, Duty Limits & Rightsaviationamy2 Sep 2026 · 8 replies · 952 views
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    easyJet Manchester, cabin manager, and I am also a union rep, so I have sat in a lot of disciplinary meetings on the crew member's side. The disciplinary thread on here is 'what to do in the 48 hours'. This is the whole process from the rep's chair.

    How it starts

    An investigation invitation: a letter or email saying the airline is investigating an allegation (a lateness pattern, a sick call pattern, a passenger complaint, a uniform or grooming issue, an incident on the aircraft, a social media post, a layover incident). The investigation meeting is a fact finding, not a hearing. You are asked what happened. You can bring a rep. Bring one.

    What to bring

    Your own record: the roster, the sick notes, the messages to crewing, the timeline. Your rep. Your calm. And the honest version of what happened, prepared in advance with the rep, because the investigation notes are what the hearing uses.

    What to say

    The facts, briefly, in order. What you did and why. What you would do differently, if the honest answer is that you would. Not: the excuse, the blame, the argument with the investigator, or the thing you think they want to hear. The investigator writes down what you say and the hearing reads it. A clear, short, honest account is the strongest thing on the file.

    The hearing

    If the investigation finds a case, a disciplinary hearing: a manager who was not the investigator, you, your rep, the evidence, your response. Outcomes: no action, a verbal or written warning, a final written warning, dismissal. The rep's job is to make sure the process is fair, the evidence is real, and the outcome is proportionate. The rep's other job is to tell you privately when the case is strong against you and the best outcome is a warning accepted quietly.

    The cases that end in a warning

    A lateness pattern with an explanation and a plan. A sick call pattern with medical evidence. A uniform issue, first time. A passenger complaint about attitude, first time, with a plausible account. A social media post that was unwise but not a breach of the serious rules. A layover incident that was embarrassing but not dangerous.

    The cases that end careers

    Alcohol within the bottle to throttle window, every time. A safety breach that was deliberate or reckless (the armed door, the missed check with consequences). Theft. Violence. A serious social media breach (passengers identified, the airline defamed). Falsified sick notes or documents. Dishonesty in the investigation, which turns a warning case into a dismissal case more often than anything else.

    The appeal

    Every outcome can be appealed and the rep does the appeal with you. Appeals succeed when the process was unfair or the outcome was disproportionate. They rarely succeed on 'I disagree'.

    The thing crew do not know

    The rep is on your side and is not your lawyer. We cannot make a strong case weak. We can make an unfair process fair and a harsh outcome proportionate. And the crew who come to us before the investigation meeting, with the record and the honest version, are the ones who get the warning instead of the dismissal. The ones who come after the hearing are the ones we can only help appeal.

    For everyone

    Join the union in month one. Keep your own records. Tell the truth in the investigation. And do not drink in the window, because that is the one case where no rep on earth can help you.

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    Bristol cabin manager, and Amy is our rep's rep. The 'dishonesty in the investigation turns a warning into a dismissal' point is the one I tell every new crew member: the lie is worse than the lateness. Every time.

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    Lufthansa, and the German version has the works council in the room by law, which Amy's union rep role covers here. The principles are identical: bring the record, tell the truth, join in month one.

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    Ryanair Dublin, and the Fórsa rep at our base says the same thing about the before versus after: the crew who call before the investigation are the ones who keep the job. The ones who call after the hearing are appeals.

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    SAS, and the alcohol in the window being the one unsalvageable case is universal. Our union is strong and it does not defend that one. It cannot. The regulator has already decided.

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    Delta, non union, and reading this I understand what the union crews have that we do not: the rep in the room. Ours is a colleague as a witness. Amy's role does not exist at Delta and it should.

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    Qatar purser, and the Gulf has no union and the process is HR and the manager. The principles Amy lists (the record, the truth, the calm) are the only protection a Gulf crew member has. They work there too, less well.

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    Jet2 training, 19, and I have joined the union this week because of this thread. Month one. Done.

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    @graceman that is the best reply this thread could get. Month one, joined, and hopefully you never need me.

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